Summary

In this conversation, Dr. Jen Johansson shared her journey from being a dentist to pursuing a more holistic approach to life and work. Dr. Johansson discussed her experiences with seasonal depression, feeling misaligned in her dental career, and eventually finding a new path through digital marketing and coaching. The discussion focused on how to have difficult conversations about controversial topics while maintaining empathy and understanding. Dr. Johansson explained her approach using the 'map of consciousness' framework developed by Dr. David Hawkins, which categorizes human emotions and states of being. The conversation also covered how to navigate discussions with people holding different worldviews, particularly in the context of religious beliefs and social issues. Dr. Johansson emphasized the importance of checking one's own energy before engaging in difficult conversations and the value of approaching these discussions with curiosity rather than defensiveness.

Chapters

00:00:02 Introduction and Background of Dr. Jen Johansson

Dr. Johansson introduced herself, sharing her background growing up in upstate New York, experiencing seasonal depression, and eventually becoming a dentist. She discussed her journey through dental school, feeling like an imposter, and facing personal challenges like gut health issues and infertility.

00:05:08 Transition from Dentistry to New Path

Dr. Johansson described her transition from clinical dentistry to digital marketing, initially helping other dentists with online marketing before burning out. She eventually reduced her clinical hours to 12 hours a week and began developing her new business in 2023.

00:15:35 The Map of Consciousness Framework

Dr. Johansson explained Dr. David Hawkins' map of consciousness, detailing the scale from shame and fear at the bottom to love, joy, and enlightenment at the top. She discussed how this framework helps understand people's worldviews and reactions.

00:18:44 Approaching Difficult Conversations

Dr. Johansson shared her approach to having difficult conversations, emphasizing the importance of checking one's own energy first, asking permission before discussing sensitive topics, and maintaining a mindset of curiosity and empathy.

00:48:30 Ground Heal Thrive Coaching Program

Dr. Johansson introduced her coaching program called Grounded Now, explaining its two branches: burnout recovery and business coaching. She described the framework of 'Ground Heal Thrive' focusing on internal safety, pattern recognition, and living life on one's own terms.

Action Items

00:49:09 Dr. Johansson mentioned implementing a 90-day coaching program with two branches: burnout recovery and business coaching 00:51:25 Dr. Johansson suggested offering one-off one-hour sessions as an alternative to the 90-day program 00:18:44 Dr. Johansson emphasized the importance of checking one's own energy before engaging in difficult conversations 00:15:35 Dr. Johansson recommended using the map of consciousness framework to understand different worldviews